[MA-RPC] RPC Information
James Hooper
james.hooper at worldnet.att.net
Mon Jan 17 11:16:11 EST 2005
There are issues involving the volunteer-professional staff relationship
that need to be discussed that we will not want the agency partners
involved in.
Walt Daniels wrote:
>Even the ATC board meetings are open to all and most governments have open
>meetings laws. However "open" does not always means "is allowed to talk"
>although again most town meetings allow limited opportunities for the public
>to speak. "open" has nothing to do with who is allowed to vote.
>
>We have been told that some agency partners have their own internal rules
>about participation in bodies such as the RPC which might ultimately have to
>come before them for permission to do something.
>
>There are local examples in NY and NJ and even ATC where we have had
>participation by agencies. At times the NJ state representatives outnumber
>the volunteers at the NJAT management committee and their input is very
>valuable. NYNJTC had a park manager on their board for a number of years.
>Again it is valuable knowing how the parks react to what we are attempting
>to do. He knew when he had to abstain for conflict of interest reasons.
>There was a NYS DEC Regional State Forester on the ATC Board for 4 years. He
>dropped off the board early not because of conflict of interest with his
>position but because of conflict of interest with his profession as a
>forester (who treats trees as an agricultural crop) and found it hard to
>deal with the NPS regs about never cutting trees. He is still an active
>member of of DPATMC although now retired. One of the options for protecting
>more viewshed is to get the land into active timber management (not clear
>cutting).
>
>Bottom line for me: There no such thing as too many people with good ideas
>about what we should be doing. The more fully we can draw them into the
>process the more successful we will be.
>
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ma-rpc-bounces at commerce-02.cilia.org
>>[mailto:ma-rpc-bounces at commerce-02.cilia.org] On Behalf Of
>>James Hooper
>>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:17 AM
>>To: michael kintner
>>Cc: ma-rpc at commerce-02.cilia.org
>>Subject: Re: [MA-RPC] RPC Information
>>
>>I am under the opinion that the RPC should be restricted to
>>the club representatives. The RPC is not a replacement for
>>the Mid-Atlantic meetings. Instead, it is for a frank
>>exchange of views and issues within the ATC. An agency
>>partner could be invited to a meeting if there is a specific
>>issue that involves that agency.
>>
>>michael kintner wrote:
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>>
>>>Bio - information:
>>>
>>>Mike Kintner
>>>Wilmington Trail Club
>>>
>>>Retired: Teacher/ Principal/Asst Superintendent/ College
>>>
>>>
>>Instructor
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Member of: ATC; WTC; BMECC; KTA (Life Member); CCTC
>>> Attended most AT Conferences since
>>>
>>>
>>the 1980's
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Have successfully completed the following trails:
>>> Loyalsock Trail; Mason-Dixon Trail; Horseshoe Trail;
>>>Conestoga Trail; Batona Trail;
>>> Mid-County Trail; Tuscarora Trail; Del and Lehigh Canal
>>>Trail; Brandywine Trail;
>>> and The Appalachian Trail.
>>>
>>> Presently working on completing The Long Trail.
>>>
>>>Involvement:
>>> 1. Appalachian Trail supervisor/Maintainer
>>> including: a) Successful completion of
>>>
>>>
>>chain saw
>>
>>
>>>certification course (twice)
>>> b) Privy construction
>>> c) General trail maintenance
>>> d) Presently involved
>>>
>>>
>>with shelter
>>
>>
>>>re-construction.
>>>
>>> 2. Wilmington Trail Club
>>> Served in various capacities: officer; trail
>>>maintenance leader; hike leader.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thoughts regarding the Regional Partnership Committee:
>>>
>>>1. Officers: Chairman: rotating position among all the clubs
>>>(volunteers, of course).
>>> The Chairman cannot be succeeded by
>>>another member from the same club.
>>> Term of office should be no
>>>
>>>
>>more than two
>>
>>
>>>years..
>>> Term limit -- twice only. This would
>>>provide for four years maximum.
>>>
>>>2. Officers: Vice-Chairman and Secretary: Same rules as
>>>Chairman.
>>>
>>>3. The Officers -- Chairman, Vice-Chairman, and Secretary should
>>>all come from
>>> different clubs.
>>>
>>>4. Meetings: No more than two per year unless an emergency
>>>meeting is required. That
>>> meeting would be called by the Chairman.
>>>
>>>5. Location of meetings: To be held at various places up and
>>>down the Trail which should
>>> be fair to all.
>>>
>>>6. Club Representatives: Both must be members of
>>>
>>>
>>ATC and the
>>
>>
>>>maintaining Club.
>>> They do NOT have to be
>>>club officers or holders of other
>>> leadership
>>>
>>>
>>positions. We
>>
>>
>>>are a small club with very few members
>>> interested in
>>>
>>>
>>the AT. I am
>>
>>
>>>sure other clubs are in the same position.
>>>
>>>7. Representatives and Alternates: May serve multiple
>>>consecutive two year terms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Without this
>>
>>
>>>proviso, some clubs (like ours) would
>>> have no
>>>representation in time.
>>>
>>>Thank You.
>>>
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>>>
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